Tapers: anybody taping Wed. Night, Thurs and or fri? [Archive]

edub

05-23-2005, 04:55 AM

Thanks for the accolades for tapers, folks. We enjoy receiving credit for what we do. I am coming to tape Umphrey's, Mule, SCI, Blueground Undergrass, and as much as I can get to. Still unsure of the actual schedule, which will dictate what I can get to.

kinderkitti

05-23-2005, 06:33 AM

ANd for those who just can't wait--last year you could purchase many of the sets you just heard an hour or so after the set for $10. Team B, will those guys be back?

Sunflower

05-23-2005, 06:36 AM

Absolutely! How many people have been turned on to a band that they'd never even heard of before because someone handed them a disc? And how many times have we all gone to a show (or missed a show), then waited anxiously afterward, checking the LMA or various bittorrent sites for it to appear?

BIG HUGE thanks to all you tapers out there!

And hey, Edub, got a question--what is the protocol about approaching tapers at a show and requesting a bnp if you've got blanks with you? I've been to shows where I've seen tapers but have never seen anything uploaded anywhere. Is it okay to do that, if I've got blanks in a stamped envelope all ready to go?

edub

05-23-2005, 03:19 PM

Speaking generally, I've not heard of a taper turn down someone with blanks and postage pre-addressed in hand. I usually take plenty of bnp's.
Most times ones wanting copies of shows aren't as prepared. In that case if I can give you my contact info, you can email me later on what (cd's usually and postage) to send and where. We tapers once in awhile will take small trades for sending you the show, like a beer or two (not all tapers drink) or water, etc. Not that we like to profiteer or anything, but it's on many occasions hard to get up and move about when we need something. Hope this helps... we all make it happen, including the bands that allow recording :D

Boone

05-23-2005, 08:47 PM

Just an aside, but if you go to http://www.tapers.com you can download some great shows including a couple DFPP and YMSB shows

Boone

TeamB

05-23-2005, 08:51 PM

[quote:7c5e9e7e7f=\"kinderkitti\"]ANd for those who just can't wait--last year you could purchase many of the sets you just heard an hour or so after the set for $10. Team B, will those guys be back?[/quote:7c5e9e7e7f]

Disc Logic will be back again this year so you'll be able to purchase a copy of the set you just heard.

Boone

05-23-2005, 09:09 PM

oops, I meant to say www.tapers.org

Boone

momule

05-23-2005, 09:21 PM

[quote:0fb01f734c=\"TeamB\"]Disc Logic will be back again this year so you'll be able to purchase a copy of the set you just heard.[/quote:0fb01f734c]

well,, sorta :roll:
Some of the bands last year would not allow the \"Instant CD's\". Some due to the labels , some for other reason's.
But lucky for us they allow Audience taping . So there sets were archived

I purchased a few of the sets last year, and some were good in the mix. Some had prob's...

\"Team AKG\" will be in the house just to be safe 8)
Nick

TeamB

05-23-2005, 09:35 PM

That's true Nick, not all bands allowed us to offer their sets via the Instant CD method.

That's why everyone should stop and ask themselves:

Have you thanked a taper today?

edub

05-24-2005, 11:32 PM

Sometimes good things come to those who wait... although I won't be taping every band, I'm sure between 'team AKG' and I we could handle most of the groovy tunes :D

momule

05-25-2005, 07:01 PM

[quote:680a792b9c=\"edub\"]Sometimes good things come to those who wait... although I won't be taping every band, I'm sure between 'team AKG' and I we could handle most of the groovy tunes :D[/quote:680a792b9c]

we should have
480(61&63)>D-mod UA-5>Jb3 (A buddy and I )
460(61&63)>T-mod UA-5>M1 (Joe)
393>D-mod UA-5>Jb3 (Sam , I think he's coming)

And Im pretty sure some MBHO's will be making the trip aswell. And Im sure plenty of others.
We didnt have much of problem getting almost all of them last the year .

How you liken that r4 edub ? Id like to see it in action..
Nick

edub

05-25-2005, 07:24 PM

The R4 is ultra-slick bro! I haven't used it without my V2 pushing it, but I've heard good things of just using it solo.
You don't happen to have any omni caps for those AKG's do ya?
Maybe we could run a 481 + Gefell M200 matrix with the R4?
What bands are you gonna run?

momule

05-25-2005, 07:42 PM

Dont have Omni's

this is what I know for sure, But Im sure we'll see a few more shows ..

friday 06-17-2005

Particle
Umphrey's
Robert Bradley's blackwater

Sat 06-18-2005

GOV'T MULE
Galactic
karl Denson
Mofro
Garaj Mahal

Sun 06-19-2005

Galactic
Little Feat
Big head Todd & the Monsters

edub

05-25-2005, 09:08 PM

I'm looking at doing most of those bands as well, momule.
I may be able to borrow some ck62 capsules. Would either of you fellas running 480's/460's be interested in running omni's if I can get 'em shipped to me?

Jackstraw

05-25-2005, 10:37 PM

anyone got any mics they want to unload? I would like to get a couple mics. I have CORE Binaurals.. they are no bigger then dimes, but I want more more more!!!!

momule

05-26-2005, 06:10 AM

[quote:5b0c0ed6df=\"edub\"]I'm looking at doing most of those bands as well, momule.
I may be able to borrow some ck62 capsules. Would either of you fellas running 480's/460's be interested in running omni's if I can get 'em shipped to me?[/quote:5b0c0ed6df]

you bet... Joe and I were talking about running some Omni's a couple weeks ago,as He was thinking of picking up a pair.
maybe even we could go all nerd like, and Run a matrix with split omnis and a card/hyper to fill in the middle with that fansy smancy R4 ya got it would just make it too easy .. 8)

The prob I see with the Omnis at waka is the crowd . We would have to run WAY FOB to eliminate just half of the Chit chat ... I woulf think they would sound better at something like galatic or particle. maybe we can try this friday evening at Particle (if ya can snag the 62's that is.)

Nick

edub

05-26-2005, 10:16 AM

I'll be talking to the fella tonite with the omni caps. Via email he's given me his blessing. I figured we could run them matrixed with my Gefell cards. The thing about the R4 is, if the 4 channel matrix isn't to our liking, we can split the two stereo channels and just keep either/both the omni and the cards on separate files :o
You guys may know more about placement of the mic's if you were attendance last year. I'm still a Waka virgin :?
I have a set of 50' mic cables we could use for the omni's if we wanna split em, but only one stand. I'm sure we can/will work something out :D
E

momule

05-26-2005, 12:59 PM

[quote:6c6c8b0d9e=\"edub\"]I'll be talking to the fella tonite with the omni caps. Via email he's given me his blessing. I figured we could run them matrixed with my Gefell cards. The thing about the R4 is, if the 4 channel matrix isn't to our liking, we can split the two stereo channels and just keep either/both the omni and the cards on separate files :o
You guys may know more about placement of the mic's if you were attendance last year. I'm still a Waka virgin :?
I have a set of 50' mic cables we could use for the omni's if we wanna split em, but only one stand. I'm sure we can/will work something out :D
E[/quote:6c6c8b0d9e]

Ya thats why Im intrigued my the R4, good price point and it will make 4 separate tracks.. Cause let me tell you trying to Sync them Post Is not very fun by any means.. Most of the time you have to stretch one of the tracks a bit as the word clocks are off.

I have a extra set of 25' XLR's I will be bringing aswell , and I also have a couple stands . so we should be good to go..

me likey Virgin's :wink:

edub

05-26-2005, 05:56 PM

The prob I see with the Omnis at waka is the crowd . We would have to run WAY FOB to eliminate just half of the Chit chat ... I woulf think they would sound better at something like galatic or particle. maybe we can try this friday evening at Particle
You fellas don't mind running FOB do ya? I'd sure like to run those omni's up front for some Mule and/or KDenson 8)

Also, what are you guys got planned for charging your batteries?

Jackstraw

05-26-2005, 07:35 PM

[quote:6c28bf64cc=\"edub\"]
Also, what are you guys got planned for charging your batteries?[/quote:6c28bf64cc]

Creative Jukebox 3 at 44.1mhz WAVE rechargable by car lighter and holds 2 batteries :)

momule

05-26-2005, 09:10 PM

[quote:6e6c16babe=\"edub\"]The prob I see with the Omnis at waka is the crowd . We would have to run WAY FOB to eliminate just half of the Chit chat ... I woulf think they would sound better at something like galatic or particle. maybe we can try this friday evening at Particle
You fellas don't mind running FOB do ya? I'd sure like to run those omni's up front for some Mule and/or KDenson 8)

Also, what are you guys got planned for charging your batteries?[/quote:6e6c16babe]

I ran from the TS most of last year but after those tapes I will be running much more FOB this year. I aint scared :lol:

Mule is kinda a touchy subject with myself and My taping buddy (there the reason we started taping) we started following the mule back in 95
so Im guessing my buddy J is not gonna be up for Running anything but straight AKG's for the mule.. But anything else is pretty much open at this point. Karl would be nice now that ya say that..

I run 9v Lithiums Now (for everything) , But I have a multiple 12v SLA's that I can pack if ya need some extra juice.
I took 2 12v 7Ah batts last year and taped over 16 hours of stuff with it (but your needing more juice) . \"we\" have [2] 12volt 7Ah and [5] 12volt 5Ah if needed

plus \"we\" have 3 Jb3s so we got over 100gb of space. ([2] 40 gb Jb3's and 20gb )

digitidog

05-26-2005, 10:36 PM

[quote:96a7b34baa=\"TeamB\"]That's true Nick, not all bands allowed us to offer their sets via the Instant CD method.

That's why everyone should stop and ask themselves:

Have you thanked a taper today?[/quote:96a7b34baa]

I'll thank all the taperz . . . :P

KSDead

05-27-2005, 10:57 AM

I just want to echo what alot of others have already said and thank all you folks who deadicate yourselves to archiving the music. After burning a few shows later today my collection will have hit 200+ shows. I do very much appreciate what you tapers do!

I think it was Sunflower who mentioned that many of the bands would not be where they are today without tapers sharing their music with others. Having talked with guys from a number of bands I know that they to are aware of the contribution that tapers and traders have made to their success.

Hope to meet a few of you and share a beer or smoke.

Don

edub

05-27-2005, 12:11 PM

Cheers to you, Don, Suflower, Digitidog and even TeamB for making the tapers' life that much easier and more rewarding. :o

toys

05-29-2005, 11:51 AM

I've got a JB3 with two batteries that I won't be using and could lend out if it was needed. I'd bought it with the intention of setting myself up to tape at Wakarusa, then got hit with an unexpected $1000 bill that put off my buying the rest of my gear.

Please please please somebody think about taping that thursday 2AM Papa Mali show. I'm telling you right now that's going to be one of the best sets of the entire festival.

Sunflower

05-29-2005, 06:30 PM

Well hell, while we're grovelling, I'd sure love to see some mikes up during Railroad Earth's set. I'll be totin' blanks and buying beers!

momule

05-29-2005, 10:28 PM

I can't promise ya anything , But I have a good Idea it will be archived..

Nick

wdpenny

05-30-2005, 11:43 AM

Someone going to tape Tea Leaf Green late nite?
I fully expect it to be the best show of the weekend

If you aren't familiar with the boys...

a nice look at a festiva, although the haymaker set is rediculous it is not up yet:
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=25474

and for a nice small venue setting:
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=23489

any other show is good, there are no bad TLG shows, not one.

oh, **** I almost forgot to thank ze tapers you guys rock like a 2 ton igneus.

edub

05-30-2005, 03:42 PM

Can't decide between these two on Friday, late nite. Is conspirator leftovers from Disco Biscuits? Their link on the Waka site doesn't provide much info. Anyone advise? thanks,
E

Boone

05-31-2005, 12:09 PM

Kudos all tapers-

Come say Hello to me at one of our shows (Wed. Night, Thurs PM or Friday noon). I'll be the one playing washtub bass.

See ya there!

madison549

05-31-2005, 02:34 PM

TO ALL TAPERS...you guys are the ones that make these things possible. Thanks!

Denise

05-31-2005, 04:49 PM

[quote:fafee7154e=\"edub\"]. Is conspirator leftovers from Disco Biscuits? Their link on the Waka site doesn't provide much info. Anyone advise? thanks,
E[/quote:fafee7154e]

Conspirator is a Disco Biscuits side-project featuring Disco Biscuits bassist Mark Brownstein and keyboardist Aron Magner w/ DJ Omen.

Edub- if you want to tape this set #7 <Matt> and I will would be more than happy to let you juice up your batteries in our RV. 8)

[quote:fafee7154e=\"madison549\"]TO ALL TAPERS...you guys are the ones that make these things possible. Thanks![/quote:fafee7154e]
yes yes thank y'all so much for spreading the music!

Jackstraw

06-01-2005, 01:08 AM

[quote:cb83170625=\"Boone\"]Kudos all tapers-

Come say Hello to me at one of our shows (Wed. Night, Thurs PM or Friday noon). I'll be the one playing washtub bass.

See ya there![/quote:cb83170625]

who areyou with Deep Fried?

Boone

06-01-2005, 07:42 AM

I'm the washtub bass player

Jackstraw

06-02-2005, 11:21 AM

[quote:5bce5812d0=\"Boone\"]I'm the washtub bass player[/quote:5bce5812d0]

right on, look forward to hearing you guys play I've heard good things about ya but never heard ya

chris

06-02-2005, 10:24 PM

Looks like all the tapers will have their hands full for this Featival. Just a quick heads up, Little Feat usually provides a patchbay from the SBD. So, keep an eye on the board in case Howard(Little Feat's soundman) is allowed to put out his patchbay.
As the Archivist for the band I'd love to get a AUD copy from someone. Please keep me in mind. cjcafiero@littlefeat.net

The band's web site is www.LittleFeat.com

My setlist archive is www.Featbase.net

Jackstraw

06-02-2005, 10:43 PM

[quote=\"chris\"]Looks like all the tapers will have their hands full for this Featival. Just a quick heads up, Little Feat usually provides a patchbay from the SBD. So, keep an eye on the board in case Howard(Little Feat's soundman) is allowed to put out his patchbay.
As the Archivist for the band I'd love to get a AUD copy from someone. Please keep me in mind. cjcafiero@littlefeat.net

The band's web site is www.LittleFeat.com

My setlist archive is www.Featbase.net[/quote

Patchbay :) that's what I'm talking about,

chris

06-02-2005, 10:58 PM

Btw... the schedule shows Little Feat playing on Sunday 06/19/05 at 6PM on the Sun Down Stage.

Have a blast for me too::))

chris

wsphansam

06-03-2005, 12:04 AM

momule

06-03-2005, 05:03 PM

I have taken Patches from Howard Before .
He is a very nice Guy , and Gives a nice mix..

HOWEVER Im not sure there will be the normal Patchbay out for waka though. I sure hope so , But Kinda doubt it..

I was just reminded today about my 15 minutes of fame last year..

I got on the bus On sunday Morning to head over for the days Shows and the bus driver say's \"hey your the taper dude Hu\" ,
Ummm do what, I say..
Im a bit confused at this point and Mumble something ..
she say's \" you were on the front page of the paper this morning , they were talking about you tapers..\"

here's the pic from last year.. I was Burnt crispy, and I dont mean By the sun..
http://etc.lawrence.com/galleries/wakarusafest/3178_hires.html

Stop by and say hi if ya see me, (but please not while were rolling tape)
Nick

edub

06-04-2005, 09:59 AM

Nice pic, Nick. :) I wonder if I'll need some shades like those :shock:

momule

06-04-2005, 10:12 AM

[quote:73e67f1135=\"edub\"]Nice pic, Nick. :) I wonder if I'll need some shades like those :shock:[/quote:73e67f1135]

you aint doggin on my \"Hip\" shades now are ya .. :lol:

I did run the Umbrella Over the mics most of the weekend and will prolly do so this year aswell , we'll see .

I run this one, It works out pretty well.
http://store1.yimg.com/I/azwagonworks_1832_5286278
I paid $9 at Toy's \"R\" Us ...

Edub , were you able to score those 62's from your Buddy?

edub

06-04-2005, 04:57 PM

Nah Nick, just anticipating how bright things might get at the fest.

Great idea for the umbrella! I've never used one, but thought I would resort to a cheapy and duct tape, till now...
:D
The 62 caps are coming, confirmed, but not in hand yet.

How early do you think you'll arrive in wakaville?
E

momule

06-04-2005, 11:10 PM

Oh its gonna be bright Im sure.

Right on , Kinda anxious to run some Omni's , Now that ya got me thinkin

I hope to be Done stting up camp By 9Am.. :)

edub

06-06-2005, 04:24 PM

The omnis are coming, Nick.
Right now I'm trying to figure out why I haven't gotten my tickets, yet.
They were paid for in February and I got an email telling me they were being sent a few weeks ago... I have to go into work to find out for sure, the date they said they were being sent. Unfortunately that's the email account they have (work) and I'll have to wait until this evening to check it. :? Everything else is working smooth with this fest, we'll see how well they are at fielding emails.
I'm sure it will work out...
E

momule

06-06-2005, 04:42 PM

[quote:219fa49be1=\"edub\"]The omnis are coming, Nick.
Right now I'm trying to figure out why I haven't gotten my tickets, yet.
They were paid for in February and I got an email telling me they were being sent a few weeks ago... I have to go into work to find out for sure, the date they said they were being sent. Unfortunately that's the email account they have (work) and I'll have to wait until this evening to check it. :? Everything else is working smooth with this fest, we'll see how well they are at fielding emails.
I'm sure it will work out...
E[/quote:219fa49be1]

they were on the ball last year answering all My ?'s .
I got my tickets in the mail long ago..

Hope everything works out for ya..
Nick

scottt

06-07-2005, 11:12 AM

I have that same umbrella! I'll be running my Superluxes all weekend.

Are they generally cool with running FOB? What are the chances of finding an AC outlet? I have plenty of juice for the JB3 (12v 7aH SLA), but will probably run out of harddrive space. Need power for my crusty old laptop to transfer off the JB3.

momule

06-07-2005, 04:20 PM

[quote:41de348d9d=\"scottt\"]I have that same umbrella! I'll be running my Superluxes all weekend.

Are they generally cool with running FOB? What are the chances of finding an AC outlet? I have plenty of juice for the JB3 (12v 7aH SLA), but will probably run out of harddrive space. Need power for my crusty old laptop to transfer off the JB3.[/quote:41de348d9d]

I seen your post earlier On TS..
I would be more worried about running out of Juice than HD space.
What all are you running of the SLA? I brought two 12v 7Ah's last year to run a single Jb3 and a UA-5..

I ran just one 20Gb JB3 last year and taped almost 20 hours woth of stuff and didnt fill it. I'll have 2 (40gb) and a 20gb this year so we got plenty of back up

Im not sure what all ya got in mind as far as taping but most bands dont get but and hour set and that ends up being about 400MB (unmastered) per set .. so at that rate you could tape nearly 30+ bands...

See ya there...
Nick

edub

06-07-2005, 11:14 PM

Well good news, after much back and forth with inhouse tickets, who said my tix were mailed on 5/7... they arrived today :D postmarked 5/7, just took a month to get here!
So I'm all set and will be arriving Thursday in time for DFPP.
Still no more word on the omni's but I'm not giving up :o
E

momule

06-07-2005, 11:25 PM

[quote:8eafdf7fad=\"edub\"]Well good news, after much back and forth with inhouse tickets, who said my tix were mailed on 5/7... they arrived today :D postmarked 5/7, just took a month to get here!
So I'm all set and will be arriving Thursday in time for DFPP.
Still no more word on the omni's but I'm not giving up :o
E[/quote:8eafdf7fad]

Good to here.. Glad they got ya fixed up, with little effort

No sweat on the 62's ..
I dont think it will hamper them Bright day's ahead.. :lol:

scottt

06-08-2005, 10:03 AM

[quote:9b47a88340=\"momule\"]I would be more worried about running out of Juice than HD space.
What all are you running of the SLA? I brought two 12v 7Ah's last year to run a single Jb3 and a UA-5..[/quote:9b47a88340]

The JB3 is the only device I run off the SLA so I would expect to get 20 hours with it. I power the mics with an ART Phantom II that should deliver 15-18 hours from two 9v batteries. I do not have a pre-amp - I just use AT CP8201 line transformers to get gain - but I may try to borrow a pre for the fest.

Pouring over the schedule I can see spending blocks of time at one stage, then moving to another. Are they far apart? Can you realistically breakdown, move, and setup in a 30 minute window?

momule

06-08-2005, 11:25 AM

[quote:aa6fe71195=\"scottt\"]
Pouring over the schedule I can see spending blocks of time at one stage, then moving to another. Are they far apart? Can you realistically breakdown, move, and setup in a 30 minute window?[/quote:aa6fe71195]

you should be able to make it from stage to stage in a 30 minute window, This will invlove you being able to tear down and set up in a few minutes . which sounds like it shouldnt be a problem with the minimal amount of gear your packin..

Nick

edub

06-08-2005, 10:59 PM

Hey Nick and anyone else who would know:
Is the area directly behind the 7-10 ft VIP viewing area, located at each and every stage, a suitable place to set up for FOB taping?
Is there a rail/fence surrounding the VIP area that would provide us a shelter to set up behind?
Would this be too close/just right?
just plotting and planning :twisted:
E

Boone

06-09-2005, 12:34 PM

Still looking for someone to tape either our (Deep Fried Pickle)wed, thurs and/or friday show.

Please PM me if that is a possibility. Thanks

momule

06-09-2005, 03:15 PM

[quote:4ec5f615df=\"edub\"]Hey Nick and anyone else who would know:
Is the area directly behind the 7-10 ft VIP viewing area, located at each and every stage, a suitable place to set up for FOB taping?
Is there a rail/fence surrounding the VIP area that would provide us a shelter to set up behind?
Would this be too close/just right?
just plotting and planning :twisted:
E[/quote:4ec5f615df]

Um,, well your description is correct as far as the fence and all, But running that close will prolly yeild a VERY chatty tape .. and your more than likely gonna need ALOT of blockers...

Im thinking about halfway back from the fence will prolly be my FOB location..