TRASH???

[JustBob]

I know everyone should bring some trash bags to put camp site trash in, but what do we do with it after that?

I have been reading to post from people coming back from roo, and they said the trash was everywhere. Someone thought they were going to give out trash bags at the gate, and he didn't get any. He didn't bring any, and I hate to think of what he did with it.

EVERYONE SHOULD BRING TRASH BAGS!!!!! One for every day you are camping is a good rule of thumb.

Trash pick up, drop spots, any info on this?

Bob <----keeping it clean

[lauri di]

Hey Ya'll!

Happy Safe Travels to the Kaw Valley.

For those so inclined, be aware that there is a GREAT and free recycling center just behind the WALMART in Lawrence. off K-10. So save up any bottles or cans you generate in your campsite, and bring 'em into town at the end of the weekend.

Love yer mother, man! Recycling Rocks! See ya'll at the show!

[VA Festival goer]

First of all I would like to say how much I really enjoyed the music and the atmosphere of the festival. How ever there was something that I just couldn't look past. When I was leaving the shows from the stages I couldn't help but feel like I was walking through a land fill. The amount of trash that was just thrown on the ground was astounding. Im not sure if this was a problem of not having enough trashcans around the stage, or if it was just people being lazy, or if it was just because people don't know how to act a festival. I was really disgusted buy this and Im not sure if I will return next year for the festival. Wasn't the whole motto of the festival \"Where The Music Meets Mother Nature\"? From what I saw, there was a total lack of regard for mother nature with the excessive amounts of trash scattering the ground. Also, whats up with not being able to bring your own alcohol to the shows, this was really disappointing.

[Lolly]

Here's an article about how well we cleaned up!

Weekend festival-goers leave little behind at Clinton Lake
Campers voluntarily clean site, place trash by side of road
By Eric Weslander, Journal-World

Tuesday, June 22, 2004

Beer-can cartons, soggy towels, discarded tent poles, melting chocolate-chip cookies and a pack of cigarette rolling papers littered the ground at one abandoned camp site.

But that kind of scene was the exception Monday morning in the aftermath of the three-day Wakarusa Music & Camping Festival at Clinton State Park. Overall, concertgoers and others say, campers did their part to keep the park clean.

\"I think most people were conscious of it,\" said Mark Bolin, 35, of Independence, Mo., who went for a swim Monday after packing up his camp site. \"About 70 percent do a good job ... other people just come out to party and don't care.\"

The show's promoter said many campers voluntarily put trash in bags by the side of the road, and he predicted that by the end of today, people won't be able to tell there was a concert at the park. A park ranger with the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, which owns the land, and a Kansas University biologist both predicted the festival would not have a lasting effect on the park's ecosystem.

Kelly Kindscher, associate scientist with the Kansas Biological Survey, said he wasn't \"overly concerned\" about the festival, as long as events stayed in their designated grassy areas instead of spilling into native-prairie or forest.

Kipp Walters, a park ranger with the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, predicted that damage left from car tires would repair itself. Promoter Brett Mosiman said his crews brought in 200 tons of gravel to cut down on problems caused by rain and mud.

One park resident reported that finches stopped coming to his bird feeder last week when setup for the festival began. That kind of thing won't last long, Walters said.

\"It has to spook the birds and the mammals and things just a little bit. I heard somebody got bit by a snake. That would be one kind of freaked-out snake, I suppose,\" Walters said.

Mosiman, the promoter, said a \"Clean Team\" and a \"Green Team\" would make a sweep of the festival area throughout the day Monday. Deffenbaugh Industries was taking care of the trash bins, but Mosiman said he had no way to estimate how much trash had been removed as of Monday afternoon.

Judging by the amount of trash one wetsuit-clad metal-detector enthusiast pulled out of Clinton Lake on Monday morning, campers hadn't dumped much on the bottom of a swimming area.

Equipped with a waterproof metal detector and a giant metal basket, Les Heitman of Independence, Mo., 68, came up with a handful of change, a spare key and a pair of sunglasses. He and a friend, Wes DeMarco of Kansas City, Mo., travel around the region searching for lost valuables after music festivals and other large events.

Compared with what they see at other places, Clinton Lake looked \"pretty darn good\" on Monday, Heitman said.

One other piece of debris from the festival stood out Monday morning: On the path to the beach, a wooden sign had been altered with a piece of paper to read \"Only\" Nude Swimming.

[Metalhead]

VA Festival goer -

I agree... there was tons of trash at the stages after bands played.... I was surprised to see it also....

[kinderkitti]

I hope it was because there were very few trash cans-maybe an issue the waka folks kind of forgot about. I think next year we'll see trash and recycling cans in abundance. Volunteers did go thru the campgrounds and fest and pass out trashbags but only one day.

[JNEMUSIC]

I was definitely ashamed and the mess left at the stages, on the campgrounds, in front of the portajohns... It WAS really bad. I'm thankful for the volunteers that must have worked there as off to clean it up and save our reputation from public scrutiny. There definitely needs to be a large recycling and collection project that covers the entire campgrounds.

Ironic... I didn't realize Wakarusa 'edits' the forums to their liking. A Waka staff member made a comment - I responded. Now they are gone. Hum....

[umphreak]

they deleted all his posts I think :?

[JustBob]

Why are all ron's posts missing? and hell, what happend to my responce to his post.

He was bitching about the trash a little. Maybe they don't want to take away from the positive sides of the fest.

I thought talking about the trash and how long it took to get it all up would help people be cleaner next year. Also a good way to get more people to help with pick up the day after. oh well.

Bob

[Ron Craig]

they did it for some reason as i don't know if this will even make it to cyber space ----

[Dgold at An Honest Tune]

Yep happend 2 me 2. Time 2 leave this forum. Nice knowing y'all, hope to see you next year. :cry:

[kinderkitti]

Careful, Ron. The cybercensors may take your job too.

[JustBob]

Ron, we see your post and you are a person, don't let them take that away from you. Fight the power, fight the power.

oh, and umphreak wanted to know if he could help with the trash problem. He lives in the area, but they won't let him in the gate without paying the $6.75 to camp.

Bob

[Ron Craig]

wow- you guys are great -- the trash is done and i'm on my way to 10,000 lakes as stage manager-- will pull out of kc on wed morning if anyone needs a lift --