Phish is back...

[The Be Sharps]

That's the rumor. They are booking a bunch of 2006 shows under the name Jemp. And to add more meat to the theory, check out www.jemprecords.com. Apparently, they are going to play under this new name and play all new material.

[chriso_227]

I would make a road trip anywhere to see that if the rumor is true.

[jonjuandemarco]

That was quick. I figured they would at least last five years apart. How does that website prove they are getting back together, by the way?
Here's to hoping.

[The Be Sharps]

I'm not claiming that the website is proof. I was just passing on the rumor. A friend of a friend on the inside of operations that has been pretty reliable in the past. The rumor is that a band named Jemp has been booking 2006 shows throughout the U.S. Supposedly Alpine Valley and MSG. Try doing a google search for Jemp. You'll get nothing other than and Ethiopian Med Journal and some weather info. www.jemprecords.com just seems to make things a little more interesting. Remember, we're talking about a band here that likes to play around with these subtle hints. Remember the Utica Countdown on Trey's site with no explanation.

Maybe someone should try Mike's hotline.

[JustBob]

It's all rumors. Also, that site is just an image of an old concert they are releasing on DVD.

Bob

[chriso_227]

well i had a chance to see phish and never did so im really hoping the rumor comes true...i figured it would take a while and they would do a reunion show or whatever....hell, the eagles have done two reunion tours and the only good one in the band is joe walsh.

[Pauly's Cheese]

Even so, that New Year's Show was the shizzle. That was the same year that I saw Phish for the first time (October 1995 Municipal Auditorium, KC) and they had some great magic in the earlier years. I also saw the Millenium show, which was unreal, but I saw quite a few after that and they weren't the same.

[JackDog]

[quote:f95ebfd640=\"Pauly's Cheese\"]I saw quite a few after that and they weren't the same.[/quote:f95ebfd640]

I've got a theory that bands are only good on the way up. No matter what band you name (GD, Phish, WSP, Rolling Stones, etc), they were better before they got big.

[CPJSJohnny]

[quote:b7eb2ec2c3=\"JackDog\"][quote:b7eb2ec2c3=\"Pauly's Cheese\"]I saw quite a few after that and they weren't the same.[/quote:b7eb2ec2c3]

I've got a theory that bands are only good on the way up. No matter what band you name (GD, Phish, WSP, Rolling Stones, etc), they were better before they got big.[/quote:b7eb2ec2c3]

For the most part I see your point but I'll have to say that after seeing WSP in Vegas over Halloween, they are at the TOP of their game, no doubt about it! I have been seeing them since they opened for Blues Traveler in 1991 at Benchwarmers. I also saw a couple pretty damn good GD shows in the 1990's but they were pretty few and far between. And in all reality 1997 was a pretty good year for Phish, if you consider that they really peaked in 1994 (it wasn't quite like 93 and 94 when almost every show I saw was better than the last, but at some point you can only improve so much).

[PolyOntology]

I've got a theory that bands are only good on the way up. No matter what band you name (GD, Phish, WSP, Rolling Stones, etc), they were better before they got big.

I agree for the most part but I can think of some bands that have gotten pretty damn big and still made (or are making) music as good or better than their older stuff. Some examples: Tool, Primus (or anything else les claypoolish), Buckethead, Mr. Bungle, Secret Chiefs 3, anything dealing with Mike Patton, etc.

[Fozzie]

Screw Phish. The music scene is better off without them.

[The Be Sharps]

Found this in another forum. It checks out as legit information....making things a little more interesting. Worst case scenario, Jemp (Jon, Ernest, Mike, Page) is an interesting story to talk about right now. The rumor is that MSG has been booked by Jemp on Oct 28 & 29, 2006.

Posted: 12/12/05 5:23PM ET

Just so everybody knows, JEMP Records is definitely the new name for Phish related business. I broke the JEMP records thing on here about 2 weeks ago when I found the website. Here is the registration information about who JEMP is and another note, it wasn't created until November of this year so anybody who is saying this is an old hold is wrong because JEMP didn't exist until November 05!!!

Registrant:
Phish

PO Box 4400
Burlington, Vermont 05402
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: JEMPRECORDS.COM
Created on: 28-Nov-05
Expires on: 28-Nov-10
Last Updated on: 30-Nov-05

Administrative Contact:
Mordaunt, Julia julia@phish.com
PO Box 4400
Burlington, Vermont 05402
United States
8026514000
Technical Contact:
Mordaunt, Julia julia@phish.com
PO Box 440
Burlington, Vermont 05402
United States
8026514000

Domain servers in listed order:
AUTH00.BOS.COLOSPACE.COM
AUTH01.BOS.COLOSPACE.COM
AUTH02.NS.COLOSPACE.COM

Registry Status: ACTIVE

[chriso_227]

Where do you get this stuff from. I have yet to find anything about this. That website just takes you to a picture of the new phish cd's. I would love to read about this stuff but can't for the life of me find anything about it.

[The Be Sharps]

There's quite a discussion about it going on over on the message boards over at www.phantasyphish.com. I heard about it from someone that works for a production/record company. This person's a pretty reliable source. He told us about the first Wakarusa about three months before it was announced.

[The Be Sharps]

By the way, to verify the jemprecords website info for yourself, you can look it up at http://www.whois.net. Do a search for that domain and it will show you who it is registered to.

[chriso_227]

thanks for the info

[JackDog]

[quote:4b5dcbf483=\"CPJSJohnny\"]For the most part I see your point but I'll have to say that after seeing WSP in Vegas over Halloween, they are at the TOP of their game, no doubt about it! I have been seeing them since they opened for Blues Traveler in 1991 at Benchwarmers. I also saw a couple pretty damn good GD shows in the 1990's but they were pretty few and far between. And in all reality 1997 was a pretty good year for Phish, if you consider that they really peaked in 1994 (it wasn't quite like 93 and 94 when almost every show I saw was better than the last, but at some point you can only improve so much).[/quote:4b5dcbf483]

I've given up on Panic, but I just checked their most recent setlist, and it was about 80% old stuff. Same thing with the Grateful Dead in the 90's, but a higher percentage of old stuff. So with both of those bands, it's safe to say that they were better on their way up.

PolyOntology---of the bands that you mentioned, only Tool and Primus could be considered \"big\", and the others are still on their way up. I don't listen to Tool or Primus, but I'll bet that their earlier stuff is better than their recent releases.


To clarify my theory, I think that the main downfall of bands is when they can all afford to live on their own. The real magic from a band comes when there's a \"band house\" where some or all of them live. When they're all together, everyone has a hand in songwriting--but once they split apart, the collaboration seems to end.

[CPJSJohnny]

[quote:e0f2df4048=\"JackDog\"]
I've given up on Panic, but I just checked their most recent setlist, and it was about 80% old stuff. Same thing with the Grateful Dead in the 90's, but a higher percentage of old stuff. So with both of those bands, it's safe to say that they were better on their way up.

PolyOntology---of the bands that you mentioned, only Tool and Primus could be considered \"big\", and the others are still on their way up. I don't listen to Tool or Primus, but I'll bet that their earlier stuff is better than their recent releases.


To clarify my theory, I think that the main downfall of bands is when they can all afford to live on their own. The real magic from a band comes when there's a \"band house\" where some or all of them live. When they're all together, everyone has a hand in songwriting--but once they split apart, the collaboration seems to end.[/quote:e0f2df4048]

I don't get your logic here. What does a setlist have to do with a bands ability to perform? If you consider that Panic has released something like 9 studio albums the songs from the last/next album make up less than 10% of their repetoire, why should they play the same new songs night after night when that has NEVER been part of the way they do things? Same with the Dead, just because the chose to MOSTLY play old CLASSIC material doesn't mean that \"Days Between\" or \"So Many Roads\" were any less worthy.

I would agree that bands are much more cohesive when they live and breath the music together but lets face it, you can only live a party so long with your bandmates before things get a little bit weird.

[PolyOntology]

PolyOntology---of the bands that you mentioned, only Tool and Primus could be considered \"big\", and the others are still on their way up.

I don't know, I'd say Mike Patton achieved his high level of fame with Faith No More, who had some great music, but I don't think it compares to the other incredible projects he's done. I think Mr. Bungle's best cd was their last one, and that was when they had the largest fanbase.


I don't listen to Tool or Primus, but I'll bet that their earlier stuff is better than their recent releases.

I feel that Tool have gotten better with each album and will continue that trend with the next one. I have friends who feel differently, but if you compare Opiate (1st cd) to Lateralus (latest cd), they've definitely grown musically, philosophically, \"spiritually\", etc. I'm not so sure about Primus, because its been a damn long time since they've released a full album, but as far as their live show goes, I think its only recently that they've adopted the jam-band method of having 2 super-long sets with lots of extended jamming, and I consider that an improvement!

[The Be Sharps]

Some other bands that get better with age and each album:

Wilco
Ryan Adams
Mofro
The Black Keys
Martin Sexton
Wilders
Built To Spill
Arcade Fire (just a prediction)
Calexico

I'm sure I could go on. This is not to disprove your comments about Phish. I think the shows that I saw after the initial breakup were really bad and I'm not convinced anything they attempt to do from hear on out will be any good. However, I do think 2000 was a great year for them. I really liked seeing the Farmhouse songs live.

[JackDog]

[quote:0bb528fe49=\"CPJSJohnny\"]What does a setlist have to do with a bands ability to perform?[/quote:0bb528fe49]

Absolutely nothing. This is just a theory of mine, and I guess I didn't express it very well. Instead of saying that a band is only good on the way up, I should've said that a band's best material is written before they get big. That being said, I still feel that my theory is pretty strong. Of the bands mentioned by other posters, most if not all are still on the way up, so that only strengthens my point.


CPJSjohnny---the fact that you used \"Days Between\" as part of your argument just flushed the rest of what you said down the drain. You can't seriously compare that to any other GD song with a straight face. The only worse GD songs are \"Easy Answers\", \"Day Job\", and maybe \"Samba In the Rain.\"[/code]

[CPJSJohnny]

[quote:c7eb782646=\"JackDog\"][quote:c7eb782646=\"CPJSJohnny\"]What does a setlist have to do with a bands ability to perform?[/quote:c7eb782646]
CPJSjohnny---the fact that you used \"Days Between\" as part of your argument just flushed the rest of what you said down the drain. You can't seriously compare that to any other GD song with a straight face. The only worse GD songs are \"Easy Answers\", \"Day Job\", and maybe \"Samba In the Rain.\"[/code][/quote:c7eb782646]

Ok, I'll give you that \"Day's Between\" was a pretty ****ty choice to support my arguement, \"Lazy River Road\" would have been a much better choice.
Johnny B

[soulacious]

[quote:d3605e17b0=\"JackDog\"] The only worse GD songs are \"Easy Answers\", \"Day Job\", and maybe \"Samba In the Rain\"[/quote:d3605e17b0]

I just threw up in my mouth a little. So true, so true.

[marley]

when we stop placing expectations on the music and what we think it should be, then its much better. :)
yay!
soooooo- the rumor mill is spinning but i sense hesitation on their part..why?!...because they fear how fans would react ya know?! because of that expectation thing.
i will be there if it goes down for sure.
i truly feel bad for anyone who has not seen them...makes me appreciate every moment. hopefully you can one day experience the magic!!
have a beautiful day! :)

[Pauly's Cheese]

I just threw up in my mouth a little. So true, so true.

LMFAO :lol: :lol: :lol: